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I love leadership, laughs (and yes) libations.  I also love learning.  Although I've been in leadership roles for over 30 years, I love talking to leaders that are in the trenches and learning what works, what doesn't and what I can do differently.

This podcast is for everyone out there that is working to lead better, get more done and leave a legacy.  Leading others is a deliberative act and we can always get better.

Pop yourself open a cold one, sit back and enjoy!

You can get more information on me at www.unconventionalleader.com.

Mar 18, 2019

“Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it.” –George S. Halas

I don't watch a lot of sports on Television.  Admittedly, it gives me less to talk about at the gym with the other guys but there's always our ailments (that's talk for people over 50).  Even so, I do love sports movies.  Perhaps I love them because I...


Mar 10, 2019

"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit."  ~ Aristotle

If I had to sum up this week's episode in two words, those two words would be "DAMN AWESOME!" 

Why?  Because I'm talking to a guy who not only knows what he's talking about as far as leadership goes, he walks it every day.

My guest...


Mar 3, 2019

“You do not lead by hitting people over the head -- that's assault, not leadership.” - Dwight Eisenhower

Did you hear?  Humor Month is coming up in April!  And, my friends, I want you to be ready.  In today's world, having fun isn't something we should hope for, it is something we should plan for so...I am sharing...


Feb 25, 2019

"Smooth seas don't make skillful Sailors." - Chinese Proverb

It's always fun for me to talk to someone with a semi-similar background.  Further, I love talking to people that have a heart for leadership and, more importantly, people.

This week's guest is Tom Schwab.  Aside from spending a little time in the Navy, Tom is...


Feb 16, 2019

"It' in our DNA to care for others, cheer others on, help others, and inspire others."  -Larry Cockerel

I, like you, have been on a lot of teams in my life.  I've been on good teams, bad teams, teams that have done very little and teams that have kicked some ass.  I have not, however, been on a team where conflict is...